Messy Buns and Shotguns

Messy Buns & The Fabric of Daily Life

Kimberlee and Maverick Episode 32

From navigating the complexities of managing teams at work to empathizing with family at home, the journey comes full circle for us. What if our parents, who were icons of leadership, were just as caught up in their work-life balance as we are now? It's a provocative thought that we chew on in this episode. We move from the corporate world to a more personal space, discussing how our surroundings influence our decisions. What would you choose - a quiet corner at a bar or a seat near the entrance? Our heightened awareness, a product of the times, leads to interesting adaptations in our daily lives.

We also take a stroll down memory lane, reliving those high school days where textbooks filled our backpacks, and jank ass book covers were a thing! Can you recall your favorite school lunch meal? Was it tacos, pizza, or classic burgers and fries? We have a hearty laugh about it, and even delve into the infamous lunch bill system, where your social status was often determined by whether you were a free lunch kid or not. High school was a curious mix of social circles, and we reflect on where life has taken those we haven't heard from in years. 

But it's not all serious discussions and nostalgic trips. There are moments of light-hearted banter too. Like that one time our niece took a photo of Mav at a parade, or the sheer joy of discovering traditional, homemade jerky. And of course, the struggles of managing our dog's health are all part of our everyday lives. Tune in for an episode filled with laughter, insights, and those shared experiences which make us all human. Lastly, don't forget to connect with us on Instagram and TikTok - we love hearing your thoughts and suggestions. So, did you America today?

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Speaker 1:

Well, 95% of the time, my hair is always in a messy bun. obviously I'm a basic white girl who likes her pumpkin spice lattes in the fall and her hair with her leggings and.

Speaker 2:

I have an uncontrollable addiction of firearms.

Speaker 1:

Welcome back to another episode of Messy Buns and Shotguns.

Speaker 2:

Episode 32, let's go.

Speaker 1:

Screaming in my ear We are back. We were out of town last week.

Speaker 2:

Went back to the 4th of July. We were out in a wonderful God's country of a great state of West Virginia.

Speaker 1:

We spent the 4th of July there, so we had a really nice day, left my motorcycle there. You did. Well, we took the motorcycle because, well, you took the motorcycle and I drove the truck because you wanted to put it in the parade. I did. And then the weather was being real sketchy and we weren't really sure how we Did you hear that eagle screaming in the distance?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sure did When I opened that PBR.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know, you grabbed a PBR.

Speaker 2:

Sure did Cheap.

Speaker 1:

And then we didn't. It was supposed to storm the whole way back, so we decided to leave the bike there and then we'd go get it.

Speaker 2:

And it didn't storm at all. And it didn't storm at all.

Speaker 1:

Which is fine, it's okay. You were really tired that day anyways.

Speaker 2:

I don't think our thing's recording.

Speaker 1:

It's recording, is it? I'm looking at it There's like no lines. There is, it's just really.

Speaker 2:

It's laying on the floor.

Speaker 1:

I promise you it's recording.

Speaker 2:

Okay, but we're going to talk for an hour and it's not going to catch anything.

Speaker 1:

You want me to verify?

Speaker 2:

No, we're fine.

Speaker 1:

And test it real quick.

Speaker 2:

No, you get one shot at this, and then I'm watching Guardians of the Galaxy 3. And then, if there's time left, i'm going to play Crime Boss, rock A City, and then I'm going to bed.

Speaker 1:

I mean I can like pause it real quick and Ah, fuck it, Let it ride. Shoot from the hip. Okay.

Speaker 2:

If you say it's recording, it's recording.

Speaker 1:

It is, It's recording. You get one shot at this.

Speaker 2:

Scooby.

Speaker 1:

All right. Well, that's what it is.

Speaker 2:

So the thing that I want to delete off with today is I have made an observation about myself, and this is assimilating from work life to home life, and I have trouble assimilating and making the switch, like flipping the switch of coming from work tempo to home tempo, because I noticed this in my dad when I was a kid. So dad would come home from work because dad was a leader of men and women at work, even in the automotive industry. He was a manager, a leader, a supervisor, whatever you want to call it right And he would come home and just be in this mood of like you need to do this, you need to do that. It's like why is this this way? And like fixing solutions that no one said were a problem right, but maximizing efficacy in the home of mom and kids. And just like making sure everything was in its place and had its place right. And it's because he spent all day leading men to maximize business efforts right.

Speaker 2:

And I didn't. I didn't understand this until just recently is like I now in a position at work where I lead multiple teams of men and women to accomplish a goal for the better than men of the organization accomplished our mission right, and especially working 10 hour days. Most days it's I get in this, this headspace of I need to. I need to guide the direct. I need to issue guidance and direct to the team and like micromanage to a sense, but like they're grown men and women, they'll get the mission done, like making sure that the product and the deliverable and what I'm trying to accomplish is the best product that can come out of the floor with my name attached as like hey, my team and I created this and this is what we're responsible for. And when I come home, i've realized like I've had trouble, like flipping that switch, because I'll come home and I'll be like, let's just say, a day like you're having a bad day right.

Speaker 2:

Or a day where you're like I have all these problems And then I'll hear your problems, I'll like I'll go into this, I'll go to this mode and I'm like, okay, then do this. But I can't like that's not, it's not that easy. I was like, yes, it is that easy. It's like either do you like either worry about it and fix it, or don't worry about it because you can't control it.

Speaker 2:

I was like let's focus on the thing at hand And then I'll sit back and I'm like she's not, you're not one of the people that work for me, or?

Speaker 1:

with me.

Speaker 2:

Right And I'm like she's not looking for me to solve the problem. She's looking for me to listen to the problem and offer a compassionate and empathy and compassion.

Speaker 1:

I mean, sometimes I'm looking for guidance.

Speaker 2:

Well, 90% of the time I I'm a creature of method and habit and logic, and I will. I will take that your problem at face value And my first thought is what is the most logical way to solve this?

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And then I'll give you that And you'll like huff at me. You're like, without saying it, you're like that's not what I wanted to hear. And I'm like, well, that's the, that's the most logical answer. And I know that's not what you want to hear. And then, like, i think about it later And I'm like that's not what I should have said in that.

Speaker 1:

It's more just like I mean, cause you're, you're right in that aspect of you do have that you're still in that mentality of work where you're just thinking of this and then not taking it, like you said, at face value.

Speaker 2:

I'm not taking it at husband level, Right And being like okay, this is outside of work at home.

Speaker 1:

Let's discuss this and take that approach versus like.

Speaker 2:

I haven't had that transition to like where I've decompressed from work.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And like I'm not thinking as a husband, i'm thinking as I am, authority figure is the wrong way to say it, because, like I don't treat people, i work with or who work for me. It's like you work for me, Like it's not that's not my leadership style, but I take it as a problem that needs to be solved as a mission oriented and not like I'm. I'm a husband with love and compassion.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Like there's a better way to say what I'm trying to say, rather than like hearing your problem and treating you as a colleague at face value.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate that.

Speaker 2:

So I've noticed that more about myself and like thinking about it, like just when, like times, i had to reflect.

Speaker 1:

And I've noticed, though, also that you have gotten better about that, like because, before you, like you said, like you're you've very direct on that, and I'm just sitting there like like you're missing the point, and then, or I'm not trying to talk to you, like we're at work right now, like let's switch modes here, like we're at home, and. But I've noticed that how you respond to start like even if we're at work sometimes, and you have a moment where we can talk, or something like that, or when you do get home, and like you get home before me, so you've been home for a little while before, so you've had that kind of time where I'm not like, yeah, where I'm not like come down off the ops tempo.

Speaker 1:

Right And like and we'll discuss something or I'll bring something up and your response to that is a lot better than what it used to be like, has completely different than cause. Something like cause. A lot of the times I will fool on. Before I even bring something up to you, i've already had the conversation in my head.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

I've had the conversation, Is this even worth? and I even still do that, Like you'll be sitting there and I'll, I'll be, like I was thinking. And then all of a sudden I go, nope, never mind. And you're like what are you talking about? And it's because in that split point two, five seconds, if I said I was thinking I have already run through what I say your response and how this is going to end, And I'm like not worth my breath of fighting and then you get upset because then you're like.

Speaker 1:

You're like me, like one of my pet peeves is like I, if you're going to start something, finish it. Yes, i can't stand when people say never mind, i'm like, don't just tell me. But I know I do that and I get upset with myself. I'm like I can't expect him to do that for me if I don't do that in return. So but then I'm like it's well, cause I already know the answer. Most of the time I'm right, like in my response, like how the response goes.

Speaker 2:

Cause you know me so well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then sometimes you kind of will throw me off and it ends up being different And I'm like, okay, switching it up. But 99.9% of the time. I am pretty spot on with how this conversation is going to go And I've already played it out in my head in both many five different ways.

Speaker 2:

That's also my least favorite thing for you to say. When you look at me and go. I was thinking. I was like, oh God, like my initial thought is she was like cause you the way you say you're like. So I was thinking and I was like, here we go. What, what is this going to be? I was like sometimes it can be an awesome idea or this is going to be terrible. When I'm going to talk you off this ledge?

Speaker 1:

It's more. You think it's terrible and meaningless, but to me it brings me home joy and comfort in our household, like I want, like I think of ways to make our house more homey, like putting not having such blank walls, like putting art on the walls or decorating Like I want to decorate and you're like no waste of money, but I think of, like, when I go to bed I want us to go into a nice comfy plush cloud bed, and then I'm like I want to have art on the wall and I want to have a nice homey decorative space and you're like I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2:

But I'm of the mentality like I want to be able to pack up everything that's important to me and like less than like things I'm going to need. Like if a defecation hits, the oscillation scenario right. Like I want to be able to pack up everything I need that is like important and get gone And then like if somebody came in here, they're like there's just random shit I got.

Speaker 1:

I have no clue of anything of where they've gone in here, or I've no idea Like that, just because on the off chance that one day the world is going to you know mentality, like I've seen so much of shit in the world And I'm just like, like everybody kind of like reaches this.

Speaker 2:

We were talking about this in class on sat on Saturday about our significant others and their defensive mindset, about like even Mr Mallory from UTM and public safety and education. Shout out to Matt Mallory, by the way. He is an outstanding Epic instructor And if you ever have a chance to take a ultimate training munitions force on force instructor class highly recommend was one of the best trainings I've been through. Also, shout out to ice firearms and defensive training and Ron for hosting that, because that was some of the best training that I've had in a long time. Not that the training I have been through is bad, but like that level of training is not something often seen in the civilian sector And it was outstanding. I had a blast.

Speaker 2:

I'm sore from being shot, but it was fantastic. I loved it. I really look forward to getting into UTM and getting after it.

Speaker 2:

But we were having the conversation about our significant others and how they don't have the same mindset that we have, mostly because, like they haven't seen the things in the world that we've seen. And, like he was saying, like his wife will, he'll get her to a certain point of like something will happen and she's like legitimately scared. He'll train her up when, like how to respond to certain situations, and then, as time goes on, where incidents don't happen, like that level of heightened awareness goes back to what he would consider her ops normal And then another situation will happen. It's like everything he taught her just like went by the way side right, like habits and ways to prevent it, and so, like we are constantly on this upward trend of heightened awareness, like how can I stay more, more situationally aware, how can I be better prepared? And our significant others like they'll get there and then plateau and then for they'll maintain for a second and then spread back to ops normal.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, i mean, i can understand that, like I personally I don't want to constantly live in that headspace. So like, yes, you know me like I'm all sit there and I'm like I just want to live in such shining rainbows And why can't we all just get along and have world peace?

Speaker 2:

or whatever, but I think you see it as a mindset of fear, like I don't.

Speaker 1:

It's not living, but I know that like, but at the same time I'm also a person who, when I'm walking to and from a store, i'm thinking of every which way of some mother effort is up behind me or coming near me. What weapon do I have with my 50 pound coach purse that I'm going to massively destroy him with or say try me, motherfucker. Today is my lucky day.

Speaker 2:

What's your first choice of weapon? What are you going to use?

Speaker 1:

In my purse, my stabby stab. Well, i always hold my key. I always pull my keys out and I hold my key, my house key, between my fingers, my house key and my male key.

Speaker 2:

So I could just which finger do you hold it between?

Speaker 1:

three, 10 to you mustile which?

Speaker 2:

which fingers do you hold between?

Speaker 1:

my first two. So between your index finger and your middle finger my index in my middle and my middle of my ring. So two keys.

Speaker 2:

So just use the one you're going to get more force.

Speaker 1:

Well, i, just because your middle finger that's beyond that between your middle and ring finger like three, there's no bone support.

Speaker 2:

You're going to break your knuckles.

Speaker 1:

Okay, well, i was thinking like three, 10 to Yuma when he like jabs him with that little fork thing. I'm just thinking like and I do that because I'm like you, just the world we live in like you never know, and it like it can it's, and I don't know if it's just because we were having this discussion on the way home while we were listening to the Bang Steel podcast shout out to them, dan and Forrester.

Speaker 2:

I'm so excited to go take that course. Yeah, i am so excited My ammunition came in. I'm so stoked to take the Bang Steel course. We were just talking about it.

Speaker 1:

We'll get to the meltdown that happened to along the way, but but, any who we were talking about that, just how things are, so just. I guess it's just me, like I'm not thinking that it wasn't always out there, it's just in the world we live in today, everything is so just in your face, like ads in your face I was. I was at church the other day and they were talking about how people you see about 5000 ads a day and you don't think that you're thinking there's no way.

Speaker 2:

But I definitely don't, because I work in an environment where I don't see that.

Speaker 1:

But think about it. It's not just social media, it's not just I'm scrolling and there's an ad there. You think, the moment you look out, there's an ad for an advertisement of a job, like there's ads everywhere.

Speaker 2:

Right, but I work in an environment where none of that is allowed.

Speaker 1:

Right, i know, i'm just saying in general majority of the population, the sheep.

Speaker 1:

But I'm just so. I'm saying, like the world we live in, with all the chaos that's going on right now, it's so just in your face, publicized versus back then. You know, we think about when we were kids. You know we played outside, our parents, you know, and I'm like, come home with the lights on. You know when the treat lights come on and they didn't have to worry. And that also might be the fact that we grew up in a small town. But I don't think so because I know a lot of my friends.

Speaker 2:

If we had kids in Maryland, there's no way I would let them play outside until they're still in the skin.

Speaker 1:

I sit there and I see kids running outside, i'm like where are your parents? But I think it's just because of all the chaotic crap. Like I know that if I saw a kid outside and was talking like I know I don't mean any with ill will, creepy, weird crap by that, but I don't know what their parents been through, that would think why the hell is this blonde woman?

Speaker 2:

you know that's why I'm not allowed to go to playgrounds anymore.

Speaker 1:

Shut up.

Speaker 2:

I was literally standing there I mean playgrounds right outside her house. His mom was standing there and I was just watching all the kids play And she's like, oh, it's so sweet for you to come out here and spend time with your kid. Which one's yours? And I was like I don't know, I haven't picked one yet. That's a joke. That's a joke.

Speaker 1:

But it's just like I was saying. it's just crazy how I'm more on edge and aware of what I have been in past years, of my surroundings And do you think that is?

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's an angry dog.

Speaker 1:

Which probably barking at some Amazon, ups or FedEx person. I guarantee it.

Speaker 2:

So do you think your heightened awareness is a result of you seeing things in the world, or you think it's a result of the absorption, of being married to and living with me and knowing what I point out in the world?

Speaker 1:

Both.

Speaker 2:

Both You think so.

Speaker 1:

Yeah For not. Yes, because I've seen a lot of things and there's also a lot of things that I've been through, so I've made myself aware of, if the possibility of something happens, like what am I going to do to defend myself? And then also, yes, being married to you as well. You know things that you have pointed out to make me more, but that's why I also try to choose to not always. That's why there are a lot of times like we say that we're very yin and yang with each other, like because we have different strength and weaknesses, like sometimes I have to bring you to earthly levels.

Speaker 2:

Back to reality.

Speaker 1:

Back to reality of certain or considered what is the norm of society and be like, okay, we can't, let's, let's live in Kim's bubble world, and then later on we can go live in Mav's chaotic world or on edge world or whatever. But sometimes I have to bring you down. But like I've also adapted the. When we are not together and I go out somewhere, i don't sit with my back to the door and I used to never really think of that until you and I got together. I kind of just okay. I mean, i was always kind of like I don't want to sit here or too close to another chair or whatever, but like I never really thought about where I would sit at a restaurant or at a bar or something like that until you and I got together, and then I kind of adapted that along the way. So now, if you're not there, like automatically, if we go out, like I know you're sitting here, but then if I go out with friends, i'm like, nope, i'm sitting with my back to the wall.

Speaker 2:

You want to see me be a chaotic mess? Put me in somewhere where I have to have my back to the door and I will. I will not engage in conversation. I don't want to eat, i don't want to have a drink. I want to sit here And, like the only thing I can think about is what the hell is coming through the door behind me. Like I will like sit sideways in my chair and distract myself from the conversation because I can't be comfortable in the situation.

Speaker 1:

I'm definitely more alert and aware, like I said, than I, you know, was in the past. Like just it's just. Like I said, i don't it seeing things in the world, like people are, just they're crazy, and you never know Like I'm going to put you on the spot.

Speaker 2:

You ready for this?

Speaker 1:

Oh God, ok Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So in our time that we've spent together, ok, what are three things that you've picked up from me? through absorption, through like defensive mindset, and mental and situational awareness. Um this is like right off the top of your head, whatever comes to you. I mean, I would definitely like my will count the back to the door thing, so give me two others.

Speaker 1:

OK, all right, So door and then how to like better Like. I've always been around firearms, but we've definitely you've trained me on better pistol firearm training, so that's something that I've had to like be quick on. Like I need to practice loading, reloading, like versus like, because if it's not just going to be, oh hold on, please pause for a second, don't shoot me while I try to reload my magazine. Like I need to be on ready for like. Ok, another thing is with our Boogaloo stuff, our love that you've now called it Boogaloo stuff.

Speaker 1:

Our Boogaloo stuff are our kids. My special. I want to keep you around forever. Gift. Yeah, your kid my kid You were when we had our almost Boogaloo incident.

Speaker 2:

When the power went out, when the power went out God. I was so fucking ready.

Speaker 1:

You were strapped and ready to go, but like you had all these things and I'm like, well, why don't I have all these things? And so I've adapted, like, well, i need I need this, i need one of those, and I need one of those too, because I do see, like like I said, back to the whole purse situation, what do I have in my purse that I could utilize besides a pen?

Speaker 2:

If I get to it that I can shank someone with basic I think that's a perfect segue to you never, you never know what you're going to need until the time that you need, it right Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Which is like I say this all the time, i say this in classes and I say this to students The body cannot go where the mind hasn't been. I even think I've mentioned it on this before, like that was a perfect example of like you never thought about it until, like you never thought. And you're looking at me and like, watching me like gear up and get everything together And you're like what's that for? And I was like well, this is why I would need this. You're like well, why don't I have that? And I was like well, maybe this is a good example.

Speaker 1:

Like so, if you're going to get into a fight, you can kind of like, look at the person and kind of determine how you think it's going to go, to a sense, right, based on how you know them. So you're thinking, i'll kick their ass, put their ass on the ground, right. But when you're thrown into scenarios that you're not sure of, or if something happens where you need to be ready to go, you don't know who or what you're going to come across. True, and you need that.

Speaker 1:

So that's a lot different versus being like, well, i'm a fucked up, bitch up you know, or you know, like in a bar because someone's drunk or whatever, some idiot Joe Schmoe in the Walmart parking lot Like well, listen, i read the Walmart parking lot the other day and there was some kid out there just behind the car doing like practicing uppercuts. I'm like is this guy a hire? Is he just training in the damn parking lot?

Speaker 2:

Was it the crosswalk ninja?

Speaker 1:

No, no, it was some guy with some half ass buzzed haircut and a pony tail thing. Oh no, it was really weird And we were just like. but that was one of the moments I was like, if him and his friends start coming our way, i'm ready to go.

Speaker 2:

Are you, though. Are you best equipped for that situation? Yeah, because I can tell you right now, you were not.

Speaker 1:

I'll tell you I was because we were loading stuff into the back of the truck and we still I call it my Thor hammer, that big sledge thing that I was ready to just grab that baby and just all the fucking yeah my war hammer. Yeah, you're on the back of the truck. It's when we built it. It's like it slides around sometime.

Speaker 2:

The one me and rank were built.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, sometimes when I'm going on the really big like steep not steep but sharp loop arounds, i'll hear it to the other side of the truck.

Speaker 2:

That bitch is heavy too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it doesn't do it all the time, but sometimes when I'm going on like sharp turns, or sharp turns when I'm driving, i'll hear it slide from one side of the truck the bed to the other. Now, the first time it happened I was like what the fuck is that? And then I was like, oh, it's my war hammer. So I got that in the back of the truck. When the truck got broken into, that was like one of the first things I checked to was if they went to the bed of the truck. It's still my war hammer.

Speaker 2:

But like nobody's going to take, it Oh no. It's just pieces of galvanized steel pipe.

Speaker 1:

I remember, like in high school. I remember if I was ever in a fight with some chick or whatever, i was like oh please, come by my locker. Because my first thought was I'm going to grab this book which, if any of y'all don't know what those are, back in the day we had actual books and we had to sign our name in them. Remember.

Speaker 2:

Do they not give books to kids?

Speaker 1:

No, everything's online.

Speaker 2:

They don't give textbooks to kids.

Speaker 1:

No they don't give textbooks to kids, Oh shit. I swear to God, Ask Olivia For Olivia. Norman, Leb O~ Up For David J. I'm telling you she doesn't give her computer. No, yeah, it's all, yeah, she has. She does all her work on computer, on her computer.

Speaker 2:

These kids never know what it's like to carry on that big ass backpack and if you wore it the right way. You were Fucking dork. You had to let the straps all the way out, so the thing was smacking you in the back of the fucking legs. Like if you wore your backpack, like like you're supposed to wear a backpack, like up above your waist you were like like look at. Look at that fucking dork.

Speaker 2:

Yeah but they mean the model. Rest of us are walking around with a smack in us into fucking ankles Back problem.

Speaker 1:

Why did?

Speaker 2:

my fucking back hurt so bad. It's like it's today an a day or a b day, because I got to know which books to put in my backpack and you always left them sitting in the bedroom. You're like these are my a day books, these are my b day books. and you always left it in a certain stack because, like first period, i can go front to back, right, and you just switch it the day before and then you put it out. You're like oh, i forgot, is it an a day or a b day?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, people. And then you always like look in the back to see who had the book that you had to see if one of you Did you see somebody you knew had it Yeah but no, i would always be at my locker and be like, oh, i wish a bitch come say something to me, because I'm just going to take this book and smack the shit.

Speaker 2:

EGONETRY bitch.

Speaker 1:

Those books got heavy, man. I remember when I thought it was a good idea to like when the side bags were a thing. They were like the one strap the one strap and I was like, oh, I want one. Then you're constantly just switching your shoulders because it got so heavy. Making my own book covers like a color on them.

Speaker 2:

You remember the stretchy ones Yeah they're like the cools Yeah like either. It was like the the spandex Stretchy book covers is like if you had book, like if you, and then you would always write on it. And it was like some jank ass. Right, it's like. This one's my geometry book.

Speaker 1:

This is my american history book. Yeah, this is my civics book.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, i remember writing on them and then, like you're always like fuck it blood through.

Speaker 1:

Do you remember? like I don't even know.

Speaker 2:

If they do remember the planners, they would give you Yeah, so Yeah, they're like you could switch back and forth and then you would always you'd always hear some kid in class going Yes, it's like, will you fucking stop before I make you eat all your teeth tiktok always gets me lately There's been things that they've been scrolling like 90s and earlys 2000 stuff and I'm like, oh the nostalgic, all the nostalgia.

Speaker 1:

So but yeah, i think about that when it comes to, i usually like What was your favorite school lunch meal? dude The aula cart where I would get the. I would get taco. I would get the taco um That comes in the taco shell, and then get meat cheese, beans, queso cheese, like kind of like taco salad.

Speaker 2:

I remember, or pizza god, what was my favorite one? The rib sandwich was always the grossest. Remember breakfast pizza?

Speaker 1:

dude Yeah, those little squares.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the breakfast pizza was the best. I like days when we had burgers and fries. Those were good. Remember when they used to give us like school lunch calendars.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but like in high school though, like you just got to a point where you can just go, like they had the regular Lunch line that you would pay and it would whatever, but like yeah like that was already paid for for the year. Your parents would put money on And the lunch would be.

Speaker 2:

You don't get you get, lunch, you get sack.

Speaker 1:

You get sack lunch because your parents didn't pay your bill.

Speaker 2:

West Virginia sent us home with lunch bills every month.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, we didn't get that. We had lunch bills you had to pay and, like your parents, if you want like if you, if you got free lunch, you were a poor kid. That's what i'm saying, Yeah like if you didn't have money because you get the brown sack of like peanut butter and jelly with like apple.

Speaker 2:

So the west Virginia has this, this program, where, like your parents, have to fill out like what they're meat, like what they're Yeah, we did yeah. So if you had free lunch like nobody. Like Like, unless you told somebody, nobody knew or unless you were like on student staff. Like you just plugged in your student number, but you could always tell, because the teacher would always like hand out your lunch bills And you'd always tell the kid that they didn't get a lunch bill at free lunch, which is really shitty.

Speaker 2:

But, like your, when your kids, like you, don't know.

Speaker 1:

I mean, yeah, we had to scan our id so that they could see, like if we had money on our account or if we didn't, because if we didn't They'd be like sorry, you don't get to have that awesome food. And then they had the a la carte line, which is where you pay cash and that's where we go get like.

Speaker 2:

You're like You know, we were fucking savages as kids. Yeah, never me.

Speaker 1:

I got told one time I needed to look outside the popularity box.

Speaker 2:

Well, you do because you're a boozy bitch.

Speaker 1:

No, this kid was just talking one day and he wouldn't shut up, and like he was just sitting there just like talking. You're being a mean girl Yeah, and I looked, i was like, are you new here? And he was like no, kim, i've been going here for the past like three years like oh, I've never seen you before. Our friend was like well, maybe if you looked outside the popularity box, friend once you're like.

Speaker 2:

Are you one of those? Were you one of the preppy popular girls?

Speaker 1:

No, i was a stoner and partied. I mean I was not like I was not a cheerleader My mom wanted me to be a cheerleader But I mean I hung out with everyone. I hung out with the popular kids and there was just like we went to school Everyone knew everyone. Yeah, I mean there were the kids that you didn't talk to, but We pretty much talked to everyone.

Speaker 2:

I went through my yearbook when we went home And like just looking at The people I graduated with and it's like who I still have contact with, do I know who this person was like? Oh, i could do it.

Speaker 1:

Who were they in?

Speaker 2:

who were they in high school? Where are they at now?

Speaker 1:

I could tell I'm a major. I'm friends with a lot of people I went to high school with on social media, so like I kind of know what like the ones you're not friends with, or ones that, like, fell off the face of the planet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah like the ones who were real popular in high school. Now they're not popular anymore. Yeah, they kind of like it's like everybody everybody wanted to be you in high school And now you're just like you're not. You're not. There is someone, there's an that sounds really shitty to say like. I'm not judging, i'm just like no But like. My personal thought to myself is like man, we all thought you were gonna be something.

Speaker 1:

Now You're just not, yeah, no, there's I, someone that like I hadn't even one of the kids I went to high school with, that like I hadn't, i hadn't hurt, like thought of and forever like one of the Employees at my work. One of the new hires had the same name And so that's why it kind of like clicked for me. I was like, oh man, like This the same person it's not but like.

Speaker 1:

But it made me wonder like Where is that guy? I think last I heard he joined the military and then I'm kind of wondering like, oh well, did he live or die? And then of course I'm trying to like look him up on like social media, like is he alive, where is he now? And then like I can't find him. So I'm like I hope he's alive, i hope he's doing well, if not, then you know. But it just like you kind of see names that sometimes pop up and it's very random that it might be the Same or not or whatever, and you're just kind of wondering like where are they now? Or, like you see the ones that, like You would net, like or ended up together that you would never think would ever be together Yeah there's a couple of those where I'm like I have several of those.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like they ended up Merely like. I never thought like or that they didn't even like talk in high school.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, those are like those.

Speaker 1:

And then, like whoa, and they end up together somehow. I mean that's cool.

Speaker 2:

I always like the ones that were like I see it more in girls than I see it in dudes, but it was girls who were like oh, i I'm, oh, we can't date, we're not in the same social circles.

Speaker 1:

She's like oh my god, you're a loser, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then like here we are, 30, and they're like settling. And she's like look at you, you are such a pompous bitch. And like, here you are And you're like, oh, i'm only gonna do this and I'm gonna make so successful.

Speaker 1:

And it's like or they have, like they're, or like one of yeah, like they have a glow up, and then the girl's like, yeah, dude has a glow up, and they're like oh fuck like, or the girl's like.

Speaker 2:

It has a glow down And you're like yeah, you were such a bitch and you could have made something for yourself. And now look at you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, i, i do see there's a lot of people that like have done very well, like that, even if they went through a rough time, they've come out on the other side doing really well And I'm like good man, good for you guys.

Speaker 2:

Hell Yeah, i love a good success story.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, i've got a few of those that pop up and I'm like man, good for you, and I just want to like all of them, like love.

Speaker 2:

So don't tell them about your meltdown now.

Speaker 1:

I mean, we can, yeah, yeah we have another crying episode, folks crying episode So we all know about for all those have been longtime listeners. Well we got a few minutes. Um, i guess we can end on this, so we all know we've been going. Uh, we're at 32 minutes. We can. We got like a half hour. Yeah, yeah, we're good.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we're fun, so Um oh, we only do 30 minute podcasts, that's right, we go, we kind of go over a little sometimes any who back to my story.

Speaker 1:

So for all those longtime listeners, we all know that I am a very huge fan of mcdonald's chicken nuggie sweet and sour sauce And I have had crying episodes because I have not gotten my sweet and sour sauce. Well, we were on our way home from west virginia and we were on our way back. We are on our way home from.

Speaker 2:

West Virginia? I wouldn't call it.

Speaker 1:

Marylin, it's not. I know that. We said that, okay, i'm gonna get off track, okay. So we're driving, i'm driving And what I like to do is we don't have buckies up here, so anyone who listens well, there's buckies is kind of expanding. So we don't have a buckies in Maryland, but there are truck stops that are loves and they have really good beef jerky. I am a beef jerky snob fanatic. I'm all about the.

Speaker 2:

I don't like the Jack Link's chewy Like traditional dried, yeah, traditional Dehydrated beef jerky.

Speaker 1:

Traditional dry yes, beef jerky, and they have some very good beef jerky. We bought some on the way down.

Speaker 2:

ate the shit out of it all week. I'm gonna destroy it.

Speaker 1:

And then I was like, that's fine, i'm gonna stop on the way back. Well, i always stop at the one because it's the last one, 64 and 81.

Speaker 2:

It's the halfway point usually, And so I'm like I'm gonna stop at this one, right before we get to Woodstock.

Speaker 1:

Woodstock. So we're conversation and we're just going and we're talking and I'm not. I am not paying attention, and I knew it because I was just thinking. I was like if I don't pay attention I'm gonna miss the stamp. And I kept looking at the exits And I was like, nope, not yet, nope not, yet I don't even remember what we were talking about.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I think I was ranting about the society we live in and the Me Too bullshit and crying wolf situation, crap, and all those woke ass fucking bitches out there. But we were having, we were in deep conversation but while we were doing like but before that, like I was we were listening to the podcast and Yeah, we were listening to Bank Steel, we were listening to Bank Steel And I kept watching the signs and I was like I know we're getting close because we've been a good hour or so and so I need to pay attention.

Speaker 1:

And then, sure as shit, we got into deep topic And then, right when it ended, it was silent for a minute And then, all of a sudden, i looked to my left and I saw it. I saw the sign.

Speaker 2:

She saw loves.

Speaker 1:

I saw loves and I and I realized it was just passing me by, or I was passing it by and I was just like and I would already pass the X. And I was like no, no, no, no, i shouldn't. And then I was just like no, and you're looking at like what? And then you saw what I was looking at.

Speaker 1:

And I immediately busted out in laughter And I just started it And I just went, no, no, and I just started crying. He looked over at me and I had tears coming down my face. She was pulling. I almost took the emergency dirt road where the cops always say turn around.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she was gonna take the authorized vehicle turn around. She was like I'm going.

Speaker 1:

I was like no, no, no, and I was like I'm an authorized vehicle, I was, so he's like we'll just go to the next. I was like there is no next one, we have passed our limit, like I was. like we are, we have passed it. There is no next one. Like it is done, we have passed the loves And he goes. We'll just take the next exit, babe, and it'll be fine. And I'm like no, i'm not, cause the next exit was like two miles up the road and to turn back around like that's a whole waste of time. I was like no, it would have been 10 minutes.

Speaker 1:

I don't care, that's 10 minutes more. We were on the road and not home.

Speaker 2:

That's true.

Speaker 1:

So I don't. So for like the next hour I think I was pretty silent, i was pretty.

Speaker 2:

She was so upset It was so I was, so I was trying so hard not to crack up laughing, i was like, look, i know you went, but I was dying. God, it was so funny, i was so upset.

Speaker 1:

He's like we'll find you. So I was like no, it's not the same, it's kind of like shots.

Speaker 2:

I like all the meat sticks and shots.

Speaker 1:

So in San Antonio now, like they have a couple of different stores open, but back in the day, a few years ago, you know there was only one location, and it was out Highway 16 going towards Bandera, and so anytime we would go to. Bandera, or I would go to Heather's house like I was, like I'm hitting up shots, like I'm going to shots.

Speaker 2:

We're getting two pounds of meat sticks.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we'd get sausage beef sticks like whatever. And so I would always get pissed if, like, we didn't go. So I'd always kind of get excited. So it's kind of like that And so and then I found out that they actually you can buy them online now, like you can, even I can order them online. But anyhow, that's kind of what I felt like, because, like there's just a good, the nice traditional homemade the way it's supposed to be, jerky and dry sausage, not that semi hydrated manufactured crack.

Speaker 1:

I mean it's okay, Like don't get me wrong, but I would rather do a pinch. Right, but it's like if I'm going to spend you know what, who has some pretty good which is also kind of hard to find is the no man's beef jerky?

Speaker 2:

No, they got some good jerky too, so yeah, that one's pretty good too, and they're kind of hard to find Who Pemmigan beef jerky. One had the Indian on it.

Speaker 1:

That's just like Jack Lee. is that chewy stuff?

Speaker 2:

But, mom, you can get it out. It didn't used to be that way.

Speaker 1:

Well, it is now.

Speaker 2:

It is now. Man mom bought me some of the allies And I remember like me and granddad would eat Pemmigan beef jerky Yeah, I just like it's just once you have that dry traditional jerky. Good stuff.

Speaker 1:

Good stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It just takes away from that wet, nasty, chewy crap.

Speaker 2:

I agree with you, gross 100%.

Speaker 1:

But that was my meltdown of the week.

Speaker 2:

Otherwise it was a pretty good weekend. Like crying over beef jerky. Yeah, I probably got really hot in the parade. God it got so hot.

Speaker 1:

But you got such a good photo, yeah, annie got a really good photo of me. Oh, you was so cute.

Speaker 2:

So my niece, how old is Annie now?

Speaker 1:

Eight No.

Speaker 2:

I don't remember.

Speaker 1:

No, she's not, She's really tall for her age.

Speaker 2:

She is super tall for her age. I don't know how old she is. Anyway, she had this like little Polaroid camera.

Speaker 1:

Six.

Speaker 2:

Seven Six. I'm such a terrible uncle.

Speaker 1:

I'm horrible at that, i'm so sorry, i'm a terrible cousin. I helped her. I snagged her a bunny on that or puppy thing during the parade.

Speaker 2:

She had this little Polaroid camera and she only what. she had six pictures, Yes And like. so they told her like you got to make them count.

Speaker 2:

That's why I told her And, man, when I tell you she nailed this picture, she absolutely nailed it. Like I was just coming across the old bridge in Alderson. She had it perfectly centered, really good picture. And she waited until after the parade and she wouldn't let anybody see it. And she waited when I came up for the after parade barbecue And she's like, oh, i got you something And she gave me that picture and it made me so happy. It was such a good picture. I've got it sitting in the truck. Now It's sitting in the paperclip holder on my truck.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, i was her candy helper Apparently. It was a big ordeal because, like Holly, couldn't help her this year.

Speaker 2:

She's growing nugs.

Speaker 1:

Growing nugs And so Annie asked me if I would help her with candy. I said you got it, I'm ready. And so one of the little Run your ass off too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, one of the little queens on the in the parade was throwing out little stuffed animals And she was like going against these three girls next to us and she was just getting all the candy. Sandy kept it. She's like Annie, you got to share because she was just we were snagging all the candy. Well, she threw that little bunny out and it landed between me and this little girl next to me And I just snagged that little bunny puppy thing and I gave it to Annie and Sandy was laughing and I was like I snagged a little puppy for her.

Speaker 1:

But, it was a good time. We had a really good time. I'm glad we stayed till Tuesday. I'm glad we actually left on Tuesday evening, even though we wanted to stay just because of the horrific traffic from Wednesday after the holiday. But, yeah, it was good, it was a good time.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

All right, shameless plug, here we go.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

And what's that website?

Speaker 2:

MavTaccom. So if you friends, family, whatever podcast listener, random schmuckatelly that wants to get his wear and carry permit Also, do it before October 1. When the law changes in Maryland, sb1 did pass earlier this year in the Senate So they are going to increase the training requirement and the registration fee is going to increase, so I wouldn't be surprised if fingerprinting also increases. There's going to be a lot, a lot of change to the communist state of Maryland's wear and carry policy.

Speaker 1:

That's one thing I need to do.

Speaker 2:

All of which will be taught in my course. So the law changes and everything will be taught. The current law will be taught and what you can expect come October 1. Nice.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I need to get my fingerprinting done.

Speaker 2:

Yes, you do.

Speaker 1:

But I want us to go. I want to go shoot different guns and see which I'm comfortable like, so I can carry.

Speaker 2:

We do need to get you a carry gun, because you're not going to carry a 45.

Speaker 1:

No, i'm not, definitely not.

Speaker 2:

Both of which my pistols are Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I know, but yeah, so like we said, or like he said, maftaccom M-A-V-T-A-C, you can get all that information there if you're interested.

Speaker 2:

And it's my email and cell phone number on the website. Absolutely, you're not going to get in a machine. You're not going to get some random robot. You're going to get me During the day, between the hours of five and three. It's best to email me outside of that. You'll get my cell phone.

Speaker 1:

That's 5 am to 3 pm.

Speaker 2:

Yes, 05 to 1500,. I am inside the facility, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So anything else.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

Our dog's hacking Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Simba's having a hacking up along out there.

Speaker 1:

Hey, he's doing a lot better, so I'm okay with that. He scared me the other day Got me a little riled up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he kept me up all night.

Speaker 1:

Well, he started just throwing up. I got freaked out Just like laying on the sofa and he just started like blah and I was like, oh my god, he's okay though His stomach just started.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's doing better now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, anyhow, but I want to go watch Gallant Guardians of the Galaxy 3.

Speaker 2:

Volume 3. Words mean things. It was hard.

Speaker 1:

Yeah well, i'm going to go heat up some leftovers from last night.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you want to give your sign off.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

We don't get a lot of outreach from fans.

Speaker 1:

No, we don't, but that's fine. It's good to put it out there for whoever wants to. You can email us, dm us, whatever. All of the information.

Speaker 2:

Give us a topic you want us to discuss and we'll go down the rabbit hole.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, just give us a topic and just comment on our Instagram page or anything like that. You can do that stuff Also. there was something else I was going to add and I totally forgot. You can support us through our Instagram page as well.

Speaker 2:

Outside of that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, outside of that.

Speaker 2:

Be safe or be deadly, Be good or be good at it. Ask yourself did you America today?

Speaker 1:

Bye Yeah.